Emiliano García-Page (Toledo, 1968) feels free to speak because he says he has no ambition and has completed his political aspirations. For this reason, he justifies his opposition to the Amnesty law, which he considers a "blackmail", exposes legal doubts about the law and warns of the complications that the Koldo case may entail, about which he believes that not all of his details are yet known. reach
What do you think of the unique financing proposed by President Aragonès and ERC?
In addition to being president, he is also a candidate. I am reluctant to enter the auction that usually accompanies elections, but I don't know if it is right to call yourself Leftist and exalt selfishness and privilege. It is an unrealistic proposal that is not even considered as an aspiration to obtain more funding, but as a key step towards independence.
Do you see reasons for the pro-independence complaint in this matter?
We all complain. But many of us want more funding to improve health, education... and others to break up the country.
But Catalonia is the third to contribute and the tenth to receive...
There is a lot of story, more than accounts. A substantial part of Catalonia's economy depends on its inclusion in the Spanish market, just like Castilla-La Mancha, so these are very unrealistic accounts. A country that has isobiranian unity lives together like a block of flats. Everything is shared, staircase, lift... You cannot establish watertight compartments, this is a fallacy to justify privileges. But the same thing happens in Madrid, with a wealth that is inseparable from its capital.
How do they experience the fact that Madrid devours wealth for its fiscal policy?
Madrid's fiscal policy is 0.005% of what separates it from other autonomous regions. In reality, we have taxation that has very little influence on the economy. Madrid concentrates many business domiciles, but it does not correspond with the business muscle. The southern and eastern perimeter of Madrid is Castile-La Mancha and many companies are setting up there. We are the chest of the Community of Madrid.
Has the photo with the presidents of the PP taken its toll?
It is a photo that someone interestingly manipulated and spread to make it look like we had gathered at a summit as if it were Aznar in the Azores. pathetic Objectively, the four communities that have collected less than expected are Murcia, Valencia, Andalusia and Castilla-La Mancha, and this requires compensation. What I demand is that Montero say and do the same as when she was Minister of Finance of Andalusia, which she should compensate.
Is the Koldo case harming the PSOE?
For now, morally, because we take this matter very seriously. He started out as Koldo and I'm not at all clear that he will end up with the same name.
What does it refer to?
It is still being investigated. All politicians, especially if they call themselves progressives, have paid a high price for the concept of honesty and it is a case that forces us to be aware every day.
Has the PSOE reacted well?
The first reaction is positive, logical, but it is a reaction without knowing the depth of the investigations, which are still open. This issue will not be resolved quickly. But as a socialist I do not want to receive the same treatment as the PP. I don't care if the citizens demand more from the PSOE. I can't agree that someone says we are the same as the PP. We are the opposite.
What did you think of Ábalos' decision?
He is an advantaged student of the endurance manual. I am one of the weirdos with his involvement.
Didn't you expect it?
No, honestly not. I'm in pain Of his advisor not so much, but he didn't know him practically. Now they are trying to involve the wife of the President of the Government, but I am very clear that she is not guided by a lucrative interest or to amass fortunes, neither are Ángel Víctor Torres or Armengol.
Can it affect Island?
They will try. Since he is leading and they sense that he will grow during the campaign, they will not have limits, but I am absolutely convinced that Salvador is a very clean person. Not clean, very clean, and I think the research will testify to that. I think he is the only candidate with a chance to represent senycatalana. Others create more problems than they solve.
How do you see what we have experienced in Congress this week?
It's unfortunate, and it will take its toll. Politics is done like in a disco and it causes rift.
Is amnesty a fracture?
More than the amnesty, the reason for the amnesty. It is a toll, being generous, because I think it amounts to blackmail, and that nullifies any moral basis of the proposal. Yes, it is self-amnesty, it goes against any common sense. Those affected don't just vote for their own pardon, they write the law.
Do you not believe the story of political normalization in Catalonia?
Catalonia is probably the area towards which the whole country has the most admiration. Some think there is hate, rejection... And now! And in Catalonia there is a general tendency towards common sense, but when crackpots and rupturists govern, there is a rift. Spain needs certainty and Catalonia needs more.
Do you think the referendum will come after the amnesty?
We will see the course of the amnesty. With the law that has been approved, I have the feeling that the case of terrorism fits much more now than before. The law is made with the very clear warning of independence that this will start again, therefore, I discuss its usefulness. It is done out of necessity. But I also say that the referendum is unworkable.
Do you think there was terrorism in the Tsunami case?
I doubt that he could end up in prison, perhaps also because of the classic concept we have of terrorism. I find the prosecution to be strong, but it seems normal and logical for me to investigate.
How do you interpret the opinion of the Venice Commission?
The opinion puts more downsides to the amnesty than positive points. It is rather negative, regardless of the fact that it is an opinion like any other, and if it is opinions, 90% are against the constitutionality of the amnesty and in the end the hot potato will be the TC.
Isn't it constitutional?
In the constitutional debate, a vote was taken on whether or not to enter the amnesty and it was ruled out as not possible. What is being attempted is to innovate the Constitution. The exceptions to the principle of equality are in the Constitution, which is why there are pardons, but not amnesty.
Has he felt alone in the PSOE?
No. I give my opinion on issues that directly or indirectly affect the citizens to whom I am responsible. I have no intention of representing anyone in the PSOE.
How is your relationship with Sánchez?
It hasn't changed. It's the same. Just as improveable.
How does it feel to be seen as the right wing of the PSOE?
It depends on who is saying it. We also have a lot of cool people in the PSOE who believe they are leftists. For 42 years I have practiced social democracy without fanaticism, and in an age of fanaticism I am incapable of being a fanatic. I challenge anyone to compare the social policies practiced in Castilla-La Mancha.
Could Puigdemont undermine Illa's options?
If Puigdemont wants to play to break things up more, it must be because he doesn't see himself as a winner.
Will the amnesty take its toll on the PSC in Catalonia?
The key is Island. I'm not saying that the public in general wants to turn a page, but there are certainties. Many people who were excited by the idea of independence today may feel cheated.
Does criticizing independence give votes in Castilla-La Mancha?
I don't think it has a decisive influence on it for the simple reason that we have been doing it for 40 years.
Should President Ayuso resign?
Both this issue and the Koldo case are being investigated. When we know exactly what happened there will be political consequences. Everything that is depressing about Spanish political life is entertaining.
