Francesc-Marc Álvaro and Javier Melero dedicate their last podcast of this season to chatting with the prestigious lawyer and veteran politician Miquel Roca Junyent, one of the seven fathers of the 1978 Constitution. With the perspective and serenity of his current position, far of the partisan struggle, the one who was the leader of Convergència i Unió in Madrid analyzes the current ideological polarization and recalls that "the pact is essential for democracy to work".
Between songs by The Beatles and Raimon, one of the most Florentine politicians of the transition recounts his reflections on a time when centrism seems to have disappeared from the map, perhaps because "we feel comfortable in confrontation". He also recalls his attempt to build a large center space with the Reform Party.
A determined Europeanist and convinced of the dialogue between different people to "build solutions", Roca sees it essential "that unstoppable globalization be built and applied with respect for identity". In his opinion, the Jordi Pujol years were "one of the most brilliant stages in our history".
