The former vice president of the government and former leader of Podemos Pablo Iglesias has assured that the recordings released this Thursday of conversations between the former commissioner José Manuel Villarejo and the former general secretary of the PP and former defense minister María Dolores de Cospedal in which both speak of how to harm him to him and his party through false reports "reveals the terrible quality of democracy in Spain".
In an interview on RAC1, Iglesias was also outraged at the media that once published or gave fuel to these reports, which, in his opinion, also demonstrates "the terrible quality of the media system in Spain" which, as he has commented "It has been revealed as one of the instruments of the sewer to have political effects."
And he has especially pointed out the star presenters of the main media such as Antonio García Ferreras, Susana Griso, Carlos Herrera or Carlos Alsina, whom he has reproached for dedicating "hours and hours to destroying the reputation of Podemos and myself". In this sense, the former purple leader says that today these journalists will not recognize that all that was a lie.
Iglesias has denounced that there are "sectors of the State" - he has specified sectors of the police, the Armed Forces and the judiciary - that "conspire with sectors of economic power and media power to try to bring down the Government". And he has pointed out that Podemos has been "the scapegoat" because according to him "the big game" is the President of the Government and the PSOE. "If they hate them," he said, "it is because they have put people like us in the government and because in this country an agreement was broken according to which all important things were negotiated through mafia mechanisms by the PP and the PSOE."
The former purple leader has explained that they have tried to put all these issues in the hands of justice but has described the results obtained as "meager". In any case, he has recalled that they have not been able to charge them even once and has branded all the plots as "gross".
However, he has charged against the judge of the National High Court Manuel García Castellón who has handled the cases on the financing of Podemos that have ended in nothing. Thus, he considered it striking that it was this judge who, as he recalled, appeared in a telephone conversation between Zaplana and Ignacio González saying that they had to bring him from Italy and France to fix the problems of the PP, the one who "initiated a set of prospective investigations to see if it could finish bursting us".
Iglesias has denounced that a good part of the lawfare that is practiced in Spain is not aimed at a conviction, although there are; and after recalling the cases of Alberto Rodríguez and Isa Serra convicted of being kicked, he pointed out that the objective is "the media bench" which, in his opinion, "consists of making thousands of people believe that you have met with ETA in Cuba , in Venezuela, that you have collected from Iran or North Korea or whatever it takes".
"There are people who still have the gall to say that this is a full and consolidated democracy," he lamented, adding that the PSOE "is going to try to say that this is a matter of the PP and Fernández Díaz" but has issued a warning to his former coalition partners and the president. "I hope the PSOE understands that they are the big game, that Sánchez understands that whoever has put Pegasus on his cell phone is not a foreign state."
